Jack Carroll – The New Testament Ministry – Bakersfield Convention 1934
Many of you have been asked questions during the past year about your
preachers and a number have found it difficult to give satisfactory
answers to these questions. Some have conveyed the impression that there
are things about the ministry that they are not prepared to tell
others, and possibly have left the impression in the minds of their
friends that this is some kind of a secret or semi-secret fellowship
that they have been brought into. I would like to dispel, once and for
all, any such impressions, so that you will feel absolutely free to
answer any questions your friends may ask about God’s people or about
God’s servants, for we hold nothing in secret that we are not prepared
to preach openly. We hold nothing that we are not prepared to tell you
from this platform, and are quite indifferent as to whether or not what
we say is listened to by those who are not yet numbered among us, for
everything that we teach is to be found within the pages of God‘s own
Book which is open to all men. I want to talk to you very frankly and
freely, to make you feel we are anxious to take you into our fullest
confidence and tell you all that is in our hearts, for as I grow older, I
recognize more clearly and fully that our fellowship with, and
confidence in, each other depends to a very large extent upon us being
absolutely frank and open so that there is no room for any
misunderstanding. I purpose to answer four questions that have been
asked at different times during the year. They may not have occurred to
you, or they may have, so I am going to anticipate this possibility and
endeavor to answer these four questions this afternoon. They are perhaps
more practical than spiritual, but it is important that we be clear in
our minds with regard to each and all of them:
1. What is the fundamental difference between the New Testament ministry and all other kinds of ministry?
2. Why do New Testament ministers travel so much?
3. Why is it necessary for these New Testament ministers who have
gone to foreign countries to return again on furlough to their home
countries?
4. Where does the money come from which enables
workers to live, to travel and to go to foreign countries, and return
again on furlough to their home countries?
You can see that these
four questions are very practical, and I will try to answer all of them
just as simply and clearly as I can.
First: What is the
fundamental difference between the New Testament ministry and all other
kinds of ministry with which we are familiar?
During the year
some of you received the questionnaire dealing with the New Testament
ministry. A number sent in answers, many of which indicated that there
were a good many things in connection with the ministry that you are not
exactly clear about, so that when questioned by your friends, you were
embarrassed and instead of clearing their minds and satisfying them,
your answers tended rather toward irritating them and caused them to
feel, "I don’t want to have anything to do with your ministers or with
the fellowship into which you have been brought." The impressions given,
to a very large extent, were that there are certain little secrets
connected with the ministry that we wanted to keep to ourselves. There
is nothing quite so irritating to the average man or woman as to feel
that they are being deliberately left out of the matter, and if they
feel that there are things in connection with your religion that you are
afraid to talk about, they don’t want to have anything to do with it at
all. What I wish to say is intended to encourage you to be absolutely
open and frank in speaking to your friends and to answer their
questions, and to encourage you to do so more helpfully and spiritually
than in the past.
The physical needs of the true ministry and
false are exactly the same. The true ministers need food, clothing,
shelter, and as a means of exchange, they need money. False ministers
need food, clothing, shelter, and money. When the question is asked,
"What is the difference between your ministers and ours?" the reply that
is usually given is, "Well, their needs are the same, we admit, but the
difference lies in how their needs are supplied. Your preachers preach
for a salary; ours don’t. Your preachers appeal for money; ours don’t.
Your preachers have homes of their own; ours don’t!" While these
differences are true and help to distinguish the false from the true
ministry, yet none of them nor all of them together, give us the actual
fundamental difference between the true ministry and the false.
When some of you are asked the question by your friends, "How do your
preachers live?" the answer you give is, "Our preachers live by faith."
While this answer is true, it needs a lot of explaining to some people.
Or some of you may say, "The Lord takes care of our ministers." Both
answers are in a sense true, but they do not give any light to those who
question you. You leave them just as much in the dark as they were
before. Some have answered the question with, "I don’t know." I heard of
one of our brothers having a discussion with the preacher with whom he
had previously been in fellowship. He was telling him of the wrongness
of taking up collections and of having a salary and a home of his own.
The preacher turned to this brother and said, "How then do your
preachers live?" The brother answered, "I really don’t know." That
wasn’t really true. He did know, but he didn’t know exactly how to
answer that question. I was discussing this subject last year before
quite a company of people and asking questions dealing with the New
Testament ministry, such as: "How do New Testament ministers live, etc."
A brother sitting in the front seat said, "I have been in the Way for
seven years, and I haven’t found that out yet." I was back East a few
weeks ago and was told there of a man who approached one of the workers
and asked him this question: "I would like to know just how the workers
get their clothes and money to travel with?" The man has been professing
for fifteen years. I have been glad to hear of people asking these
questions, because it proves that workers everywhere are very slow to
discuss this subject. They would rather leave people absolutely in the
dark than to convey the impression that they are selfish in their
motives or in their ministry or that by discussing those things they
wanted anything for themselves.
The Old Testament is very clear
with regard as to how in Old Testament days the priests and Levites were
cared for, and the New Testament is equally clear with regard to how
God’s servants are taken care of today. I want to emphasize, in
answering this first question, what to me is the actual and fundamental
difference between the New Testament ministry and every other ministry.
Jesus taught that the laborer is worthy of his hire. That is often
quoted to us, and Paul in 1 Corinthians 9:14 said, "The Lord has
ordained that they which preach the gospel should live by the gospel."
We make no secret of the fact, that as God’s bondservants and
handmaidens, we live by the gospel, and the reason we "live by the
gospel" and are justified in so doing, is because we have fulfilled the
conditions which Jesus laid down in the Gospels. No man is justified in
living 'by the gospel' apart from fulfilling these conditions.
When your friends ask you the question, "How do your preachers live?"
the proper answer to give is: "Our preachers live by the gospel." But
they say, "Our preachers do that also." And then very gently and with
grace you should go on to explain to them that the reason why our
preachers "live by the gospel" (and we love to make it possible for them
to do so) is because they have fulfilled the conditions that Jesus laid
down in the gospels for the New Testament ministry, and it is a
pleasure to minister to them food, clothing, shelter, and as a means of
exchange, money, in His name. When you answer the questions with regard
to the New Testament ministry, simply, frankly, and without
unnecessarily reflecting upon those whom your friends support, in nine
cases out of ten, instead of irritating them, you will have enlightened
them and awakened in them a desire to hear a little of this for
themselves.
Jesus labored as a carpenter and lived by the work of
His hands as a carpenter for eighteen years, but for three and a half
years he lived "by the gospel" and got his bread as a preacher of the
gospel just as honorably as he did as a carpenter. Jesus did not live on
charity. Those that live on charity, give nothing in return. Jesus
always gave more than he received. If he accepted hospitality from
Matthew the publican, from Simon the Pharisee, or from Lazarus the
brother of Mary and Martha, he always gave more than he received, and in
this, he left for us an example that we should follow in his steps. We
do not live on charity. If any of God’s professed people came to us and
offered us food, clothing or shelter as an act of charity, we would
refuse it, for we are not living on charity. But if they came to us in
his name and as an expression of their love and interest in the
furtherance of the gospel, recognizing that we have fulfilled the
conditions that justified us in living by the hospel, it is our duty to
accept, knowing that a cup of cold water given to one of the least of
God’s servants will in no wise lose its reward on that day. Only those
who have fulfilled the conditions laid down by Jesus for the New
Testament ministry, are justified in living by the gospel. This is the
fundamental difference between the ministers that God uses, to bring you
into the family and kingdom of God and all other kinds of ministers
that we know of in the world.
What then are the conditions that
Jesus laid down in the New Testament which He expects those to fulfill
who want to have a part in this ministry? I would like to think that we
are very clear on what it costs our brothers and sisters to go forth
into God’s great harvest field. There are no people on the earth that
demand more sacrifice on the part of those who minister to them than the
people of God, and this is scriptural and in line with God’s plan. An
article appeared last year in one issue of "Good Housekeeping" written
by a professor of Harvard University, entitled, "The Cruel Promises of
Jesus." It rather surprised me to find this man of the world recognizing
that a large portion of the teaching was applicable only to the
ministry and that it was very difficult to face, and because of this
difficulty, it had been more or less explained away and watered down
until it became absolutely meaningless. We do not wish to hide from
anyone what Jesus taught with regard to the initial steps into the
ministry. Not all are called to enter the ministry. Not all are called
to become bondservants and handmaidens of the Lord, but none can have a
part in the ministry without fulfilling the conditions laid down by
Jesus in the gospel that would justify them afterwards, and which alone
could justify them in living "by the gospel," for any man who claims to
be living by the gospel without fulfilling the conditions laid down by
Jesus in the gospel is receiving money under false pretense and will,
one day, come under the just condemnation of God. What are these
conditions? I will present them in the form of questions.
The
first is: Are you prepared to sell all? Are you prepared to make
yourself poor? Are you willing, as the very first condition, to have
fellowship with Jesus in his poverty? In connection with the New
Testament ministry there is a real equality. No one of us makes a
greater sacrifice than the other. We each make equally the same
sacrifice. We each sacrifice all, and it would be very dishonorable for
any of us in after years, to suggest that our sacrifice was greater than
the sacrifice of the brother or sister laboring by our side. In this
matter of fulfilling the very first condition there is an absolute
equality among us, so that we are all placed on the same level. In order
to illustrate this point, a few years ago three young men who had
volunteered for the work came in to see us. All three of them were young
and I well remember the scene--the three boys sitting in a row and we
questioning them with regard to their purpose. We asked them if they
were willing to fulfill the very first condition, to sell everything,
making themselves poor and to have fellowship with Jesus in His poverty,
and of course they said, "Yes." The first boy said that he did not have
much to sell. We asked what he had to sell and he told us it was an old
Model T Ford. We asked what it was worth and he said only about $35.00.
We asked the next boy how he stood, and he said he had about $150.00 in
the bank. We told him that it had to be so scattered that it could
never be gathered again. The third boy said, "All I have is one hog." He
was the youngest of the three and had put everything he had earned into
helping his mother at home. Now she felt that she was able to get along
without him and was delighted that her boy was going forth to preach
the gospel. We told him to give the hog to his mother and go and preach
the gospel. It didn’t matter whether the first boy had a Pierce-Arrow
or a model T Ford, whether the second had $150,000.00 or $150.00 in the
bank. It all had to be scattered so that they would have nothing to go
back to. The first condition laid down by Jesus had to be faced and
fulfilled by all.
The second condition has to do with being
homeless. Are you willing to be homeless for life? That is a very
serious proposition. Some of us have been preaching for a good many
years and are still homeless. On one occasion a man came to Jesus and
said, "I will follow Thee." He volunteered for the work and Jesus
looking at him, just applied this second condition. He said, "Foxes have
holes and the birds of the air have nests, but the Son of man hath not
where to lay His head." We never hear of that young man going out into
the work. To be homeless for Jesus sake is a very real thing. It is just
as well for those who are thinking about filling a place in the
ministry to recognize this, for six months after you have left home you
may suffer from a very common disease--homesickness. There are those who
have been homesick during the past year, but Jesus insisted that those
who were to have a part with him in the ministry must be prepared to be
homeless as he was and to be able to say as a minister of the gospel,
"The foxes have holes and the birds of the air have their nests, but the
Son of man hath not where to lay His head."
The third condition
is: Are you willing to put the preaching of the gospel before the claim
of flesh and blood, living or dead? Sometimes when I think upon this,
it seems to me to be the most stern of all the conditions that Jesus put
before candidates for the ministry. When one man said to Jesus, "Suffer
me first to go and bury my father," Jesus said, "Let the dead bury
their dead." What He meant by this was, that no man is fit to preach the
gospel if the claims of his own flesh and blood, living or dead, were
more important to him than bringing the message of Christ to those who
are dead in trespasses and sin. Another man said, "Lord, I’ll go but
suffer me first to go home and say good-bye to my friends." And Jesus
turned to him and said, "No man having put his hand to the plow and
turns back, is fit for the kingdom of heaven."
Instead of Jesus
bribing men to enter the ministry, it would almost seem as though he
were trying to prevent them. Instead of promising them a nice living,
good prospects and lots of time for reading and fellowship with others,
or encouraging them to believe that in the ministry they would climb up
the social scale, he did the exact opposite. Instead of making it easy
for them, he made it hard. Instead of making it a pleasant thing, he
made it the very opposite, for he wanted to test the depth and sincerity
of the purpose of those who expressed a wish to have a part in the
ministry. Do you appreciate that?
The fourth question is, "Are
you willing to go forth without having any individual or group of
individuals pledge to take care of you, and preach the gospel without
money and without price, wherever you have the opportunity?" If we knew
that any one of us ever lifted a collection, or asked for money, we
would immediately see to it that that one would be excluded from our
fellowship as a preacher of the gospel. We are glad to know that
throughout the world, God’s servants have been able to go forth in his
name and are preaching the gospel in many different lands and making
that gospel as it was in New Testament days, without money and without
price. The men and women who are preaching the gospel would scorn the
very thought, would rather die in their tracks, than to leave it to
anyone to suggest that they are selfish or mercenary in their motives or
in their ministry.
The fifth question that we would like to ask
is in connection with that verse dealing with a corn of wheat. "Are you
willing to be as a corn of wheat which falls into the ground and dies?
Are you willing to let death work so that life may be brought in others?
Are you willing to be dead to what is honorable and legitimate for
others?"
The sixth question we ask is, "How far are you willing
to go in preaching the gospel?" It would be nice if we could remain in
California forever, where the sun is always shining, but when Jesus
called men into his harvest field, he would accept none who would set
any limits to their ministry. Whenever we become settled or rooted in
any field, sooner or later death begins to work. There was no such hint
as a fixed or settled ministry in New Testament days. None of us are in
any one state for life. There must be a willingness to accept and obey
the commission that Jesus gave to his disciples, "Go ye forth into all
the world, teaching all nations and baptizing them in the name of the
Father, of the Son and of the Holy Ghost."
There is another
question which we sometimes ask those who are desirous of going forth,
"Are you willing to go with any one of your brethren?" Those who have
the responsibility for arranging this matter look upon it very seriously
and do not lightly undertake the arranging year after year of those who
are to labor together. When the Lord sent out the first twelve, he did
not do it lightly, and when he sent the seventy out later He did not do
that lightly. When others later went out in his name, this was not
looked upon as a light matter, and we would like to say that it is a
custom of those who have this responsibility to seek for the wisdom of
God and His guidance, so that during the year the labors of God’s
servants may "turn out unto the furtherance of the gospel."
Only
those who have fulfilled the conditions which I have enumerated are
justified in living by the gospel, but those who have fulfilled these
conditions and are preaching the gospel earn their bread just as
honorably as when they worked with their hands at their different
trades, for no servant of God lives on charity. They are worthy of
their hire, and it comes to them in God’s appointed way. We are not
ashamed of the fact that Jesus lived by the gospel and we are not
ashamed to teach others to live by the gospel, and we are not ashamed to
proclaim to the whole world that we live by the gospel. The reason we
are justified in living by the gospel is that we have fulfilled the
conditions laid down in the gospel. Some of us were having a little
discussion some months ago and the question was raised by one of the
workers, "How much should we tell in gospel meetings about how we live
as ministers of the gospel?" Someone answered, "We shouldn’t tell
anything." I took the opposite view and said, "I am prepared to tell
them everything." If a man asks me any questions regarding the ministry
and desires an answer, I am prepared to give him that answer and to
prove from the scripture that my answer is according to the teaching and
example of Jesus.
The second question I would like to answer is,
"Why do those New Testament ministers travel so much? They seem to be
always going somewhere." When Jesus was preaching in a certain city in
Galilee, the people of that city wanted him to settle down and remain in
their midst, but he said, "I must preach the kingdom of God to other
cities also, for therefore am I sent." The reason the workers travel so
much is because they could not be New Testament ministers if they did
not, for Jesus did not say, "Stay and preach" but "Go and preach". His
commission was, "Go ye into all the world, and teach all nations." The
New Testament ministry is essentially a traveling ministry and it could
not be a New Testament ministry if it weren’t. There are those in the
church who assume a little responsibility, whom we speak of as elders,
men who live in their own homes and are settled there, but the ministry I
am speaking of is a moving ministry and it could not be a New Testament
ministry apart from this.
The third question I would like to
answer is, "Why is it necessary for workers who have gone to foreign
fields to return home again after a period abroad?" I heard a man some
years ago who, after a meeting, went to a friend and said, "I am very
glad that Jack explained that to us this afternoon, for I used to think
upon it as an unnecessary expense for workers to go abroad and spend
several years there and then come back again." He was looking upon it
from purely a viewpoint of dollars and cents. It is just as necessary
for workers to return to us, as it was for them to go forth from us. No
workers now in the regions beyond were sent there by any other worker or
by any group of workers. There is no group of workers that I know of
that would assume that responsibility. Those who are in different fields
in China, Japan, India, all over Europe and all over Africa are not
there because any of us sent them. They are there because God moved upon
their own hearts and caused them to lift up their eyes to behold the
fields white unto harvest. He awakened an interest in their hearts in
people in other lands, and so moved upon them that they expressed the
desire of their hearts to launch out a little farther into the deep, and
if we had any part in their going it was in deciding their
qualifications. Many have volunteered to go whose health would not
justify them in going. Many have expressed a wish to go whom we would
never think of encouraging to go, and those who have gone, are there by
their own choice. They can have the glad assurance that God sent them
there and when the devil discourages them they can fall back on this
thought, "I am here not because any individual sent me, but I am here
because God moved upon my heart, and by my own choice I am seeking to
carry out His work in this land." We would not like any servant of God
to lay hands upon any brother or presume to say, "You go here," or "You
go there." It would indicate that we were out of God’s plan if we
presume to do so.
Why is it just as necessary for workers to
come back to us as it is for them to go from us? First, for the sake of
their health. That in itself ought to be sufficient. Some live under
conditions which are not conducive toward health and longevity, and it
would be a cruel thing if we were satisfied to leave them there to live
or die. So, for the sake of their health it is necessary for them to
come back for a change. The second reason is that most of them have
fathers and mothers whom they love, and who like to see them and whom
they would like to see. That is human fellowship. It is a spiritual
fellowship, but it has a human side as well as its spiritual side. There
are fathers and mothers who have boys and girls in foreign lands,
laying down their lives for Christ’s sake and these children are
interested in their parents and look forward, after spending a
reasonable time in these foreign lands, to returning home again to tell
the story of their labors to those whom they love. The third reason is
that all of them were tried and tested before they left. They have
friends in the gospel for whom they are still responsible, whom they
would like to see and who would like to see them. The fourth reason and
the most important is that it is necessary for the unity of the people
of God. This fellowship that is ours is more wonderful to me the older I
get. Here we are a body of people absolutely unorganized, and a puzzle
and mystery to the world. They are prepared to leave us alone, and we
are prepared to be left alone. We are satisfied to be as the mustard
tree, a shrub in a man’s back yard to which no one will give much
attention.
God’s method of uniting and holding His people
together in one is by the coming and going of His bondservants and
handmaidens. The constant coming and going, their traveling from one
state to another, from country to country, and from continent to
continent, contributes to the fulfillment of the purpose of God in
uniting His people into the family, one fold, one fellowship, one
kingdom, so that we can truly say that we are one in Christ. Our
brethren in South America have asked me to come down to visit them. I
don’t think that it is going to be a pleasure trip by any means, and I
don’t intend to make it a pleasure trip. My purpose in going is to help
to link our brethren in South America to their brethren in North
America, to endeavor to add a little to the foundation that has been
laid down by others, and to build upon that foundation not with wood,
hay and stubble, but gold, silver, and precious stones.
Those who
have read the book of Acts will have noticed how little groups of God’s
servants were continually on the move, going from one country to
another--from Europe to Asia. It seems to me that this was God’s simple
and wonderfully nice way of uniting His people, so that regardless of
their race or nationally, color or language, they would be one people,
and that in a measure at least there would be answering the prayer of
Jesus on that last night of his life, that "they might all be one in
him.” So, when we welcome some of our brothers from China, Japan and
other countries, their coming will awaken in us a new interest in those
countries. Those who have gone to other countries and have returned to
us will bring Sweden, Norway, Germany, Denmark, etc. a little nearer to
us and make us feel that we are indeed one family, one fellowship,
striving together for the extension of the same kingdom.
The
fourth question I would like to answer is, "Where does the money come
from that enables the preachers to live, to travel to foreign countries,
and to return?" When you talk about the workers coming and going, your
friends will tell you that all of this takes money, and it does. When
they ask you where the money comes from, you say, "Oh, the Lord provides
it." But why not tell them plainly just where it comes from? It comes
from you. Money, as a means of exchange, is used to enable workers to
live, to travel to foreign lands, and it comes as a spontaneous,
unsolicited, freewill offering of God’s children. You don’t minister in
this way because you have to or are solicited to. If you don’t love to
do it, the Lord doesn’t accept it and we wouldn’t if we knew. When
workers go forth they get rid of everything they possess. Money thus
surrendered is scattered so that it can never be theirs again. It is
gone for good, and it is used to minister to our brethren abroad or to
bring them from the foreign field, or to send others there. Occasionally
God’s children who set their affairs in order and whom the Lord takes
home remember an individual worker with gifts of money, or sometimes
they leave them a piece of property, but that money is scattered in the
furtherance of the gospel and that property is sold and the money it
brings is scattered in the same way, so that no gift can ever enrich any
individual worker. When you are asked then by your friends, "What is
the fundamental difference between our ministry and every other
ministry? Why do workers travel so much? Why is it necessary for those
who go from us to return again? Where does the money come from?", I hope
you will feel free to be frank and candid with them, so that you won’t
convey the impression that this is some kind of a great secret society
you are in. We teach nothing in private that we are not prepared to
proclaim from the house tops to all men, for everything we teach can be
read by all men in the pages of God’s own Book.
B. Simonton
